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Open Forum => Public Discussion => Computer Hardware => Topic started by: SPC (Ret) Tellez on June 11, 2018, 08:31:58 PM

Title: Crashing Constantly
Post by: SPC (Ret) Tellez on June 11, 2018, 08:31:58 PM
So I have been having a problem with crashing. Im afraid its my cpu/motherboard because thats the most expensive. Currently running AMD FX 8350 8 Core and M5A97 PLUS (does not support overclocking). Also running Corsair H60 HydroCooled CPU Cooler and EVGA NEX750G. Can I get some help with this?
Title: Re: Crashing Constantly
Post by: 1st Lt (Ret) Hardman on June 11, 2018, 08:33:38 PM
When did it start happening? Did anything change around the time it started?
Title: Re: Crashing Constantly
Post by: SPC (Ret) Tellez on June 11, 2018, 11:28:03 PM
About the second operation for TFB operation thunderstorm
Title: Re: Crashing Constantly
Post by: SGT Madsen on June 12, 2018, 08:06:52 PM
is it just in arma? is it the application crashing? the entire computer? any error messages?
Title: Re: Crashing Constantly
Post by: SPC (Ret) Tellez on June 12, 2018, 10:00:35 PM
It's the entire computer. Possibly watchdog time out error, but that was only once. Every time it crashes I could leave it on all night and it will stay that way untill I hard reset the computer. And it happends with different applications at random
Title: Re: Crashing Constantly
Post by: CPT L. McCoy on June 12, 2018, 10:21:37 PM
Is it the classic "blue screen of death" crash?  That could be an indication of a failing or corrupted HDD.
Title: Re: Crashing Constantly
Post by: SGT Madsen on June 13, 2018, 09:25:10 AM
alright, do me a favor and watch the temperatures, a program like speccy can do that. It might be a overheat issue if it happens at random but frequently when running games.

a failing component is very likely too, but the temperature is easier to get a good look at :)

If it is running 80c or more it might be a problem, if it is less it is probably not that.
Title: Re: Crashing Constantly
Post by: SGT P. Connor on June 13, 2018, 12:25:44 PM
I had a few crashes lately: BSOD with PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA resulting in having to completely reinstall my system. I couldn't find the f***k out what caused the crashes but today I think I was able to nail it down. :knock on wood:
By any chance do you use any Razer device and G Data as antivirus? In my case there seems to be a conflict between both drivers...
Title: Re: Crashing Constantly
Post by: SGT Perkinson on June 13, 2018, 06:21:29 PM
I had a few crashes lately: BSOD with PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA resulting in having to completely reinstall my system. I couldn't find the f***k out what caused the crashes but today I think I was able to nail it down. :knock on wood:
By any chance do you use any Razer device and G Data as antivirus? In my case there seems to be a conflict between both drivers...
I had the BSOD with PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA a few months ago, it turned out to be a failing stick of RAM.
Title: Re: Crashing Constantly
Post by: CPT Bowman on June 13, 2018, 06:45:40 PM
I second monitoring temperatures and testing memory.

If you built the computer there is a possibility the thermal compound you applied to the CPU was of a lower quality or possibly applied incorrectly. That's an easy stone to turn before replacing components, and is a good thing to do every year or so depending on how much of a workload you place on your CPU.
Title: Re: Crashing Constantly
Post by: SPC (Ret) Tellez on June 15, 2018, 07:16:53 PM
I second monitoring temperatures and testing memory.

If you built the computer there is a possibility the thermal compound you applied to the CPU was of a lower quality or possibly applied incorrectly. That's an easy stone to turn before replacing components, and is a good thing to do every year or so depending on how much of a workload you place on your CPU.

Considering how much I play Arma and the CPU Load skyrockets during platoon size events, Ill be sure to start monitoring heat as well as memory fail. Thanks guys. Also, I dont remember if someone applied heat compound and I Certainly don't know how to.
Title: Re: Crashing Constantly
Post by: SGT Madsen on June 15, 2018, 07:30:03 PM
did you build the pc on your own? Probably someone 'did' apply paste if you purchased it from someone else, otherwise you would have had the heat issue a loooot sooner. It is fairly straightforward to apply and the paste costs like a dollar. It is however not without 'some' risk, its easy to find a youtube video to show you how to do it, if you still feel uncertain about the process a local IT store should be able to do it (although it might cost you) If heat IS the issue it is a good idea to atleast look at the layer of paste as it might be old, however, i dont advise looking before after you have had a look at the temperatures
Title: Re: Crashing Constantly
Post by: CPT Bowman on June 15, 2018, 08:25:14 PM
If the paste is the culprit, (use HWMonitor to check temperatures), a coffee filter and rubbing alcohol is what you need to use in order to remove the old thermal compound from the CPU and heatsink. Really simple.
Title: Re: Crashing Constantly
Post by: SPC (Ret) Tellez on June 17, 2018, 02:46:58 PM
I caught a slight glimpse at my CPU Core Temp and it looks like it hovers around 40% and then shoots up to 80% load capacity. Looks like i'm gonna try to redo my thermal compound.

So I've had some time to do some research (not that there was a lot to do for it) and it turns out removing thermal compound paste is easy. The new compound I have seen (Grizzly Compound) has had a CPU Core Temp drop from 15 to 30 degrees. Since this is the cheaper option, Ill give this a shot.

In the case this does not work, I do have the stock CPU fan instead of my Corsair Hybrid cooler. I heard they keep Core Temps cooler than liquid cooled ones. Wish me luck guys!